A conversation with the Mother, recollected and narrated by Mona Sarkar, and published in “Blessings of the Grace” (below is a full text of the conversation, while only a selection has been in\used in the video).
Bonjour!
Bonjour, Douce Mère.
(In my letter to the Mother, I had asked a question.)
What, didn’t you receive my answer?
No, Mother.
No?
No, Mother.
But, I sent you a word. Didn’t you feel something?
No, Mother.
Ah! Look, how you complicate matters! It becomes so easy. And I gain time if you are a little receptive…. Didn’t you hear anything?
No, Mother.
But, if you become conscious and receptive, you will get the answer at once. You see, when I read your letter, I sent the answer immediately…. I do not formulate it mentally, but it is a clear and distinct formation sustained by a spiritual force which acts and contains a power of efficacy and I send it towards the person with whom I want to communicate. Like this (Mother makes a gesture), I aim it — it is like a vibration originating from me, coming out and touching the person, and if he is receptive, at once he receives the answer and he is satisfied….
(The Mother speaks about some other things, then says:)
You must learn to observe all that happens, watch all that takes place and absorb with equanimity all that has some value for your progress. It is this which is important. Always equal. (Mother makes a horizontal movement with Her hand) One should not get perturbed or be anxious about the results, — then you will see that things get arranged much better by themselves, and you will get an indication in the quietness of your inner state, as well as the answer.
If ever something torments you or you are in difficulty and you do not know what to do, quieten yourself at once and go inwards. That means, you enter within, and sincerely ask your inner being, the psychic being, and you will get the answer, — clear and precise, like this. It will tell you what is to be done. It will guide you invariably….
And there is also another means which is very effective and you will succeed each time you ask. If you are in difficulty or you want an answer, it could be anything, or if you are not feeling quite at ease or something is tormenting you or you have made a mistake which makes you feel uneasy, — supposing you become angry and are discontented, which may be very insignificant, quite ordinary and without any value, even for things of which you do not know the cause, if something is not all right, not as it should be, — at that time, if you want to get rid of this somewhat unhappy state, come directly to the Samadhi, and bow down your head at the Samadhi and speak frankly to Sri Aurobindo all that you have to say, without hesitation, without doubt, as you come to tell me — and you have seen so many times that your difficulties have disappeared at once, vanished completely the moment you spoke to me. You got rid of them because I chased them out of you. And you felt yourself free from these negative or even harmful formations and you felt light because I had removed from you this burden and you went back happy. Do you remember? So many times you have told me that.
Yes, Mother, many times.
In the same manner, you should tell Him (Sri Aurobindo); like this, you should keep your head on the Samadhi (the Mother bows Her head) and you tell Him to get rid of your difficulties. Or you send a prayer like this, (the Mother makes a movement with the hand from the region of the heart upwards) but very sincerely, and you bring the concentration at the very depth of your being. I am sure that He will hear you and He will give you your answer. Without doubt, you can now communicate easily with Him. There are many who put themselves in contact with Him and find their answers. He has become more accessible to us and He is much more active. You see then, in this way you don’t have to wait — first to inform me and then I would have to choose a convenient date, a precise time, and also see if I have the time or not so that I could listen to what you have to tell me, and then I would answer. A whole process to be followed before you get the answer. It is long, it takes a lot of time and above all, you have to have the patience to wait…. But this method is convenient and more direct and more accessible. At any time you can ask. You just come to the Samadhi to have your answer.
If something is not all right and you would like to know the cause, or you want to get rid of a weakness, or get cured, or be cleansed, to have a difficulty removed in order to be purified, — for any answer, come and ask Sri Aurobindo at the Samadhi and you will have the answer. Not only His answer but also His blessings, His compassion, His peace and His illumination. You will be engulfed and seized by His love that is all-powerful. Once you abandon yourself to Him, you will be protected against all mishaps. It is like this — His influence. He reveals Himself to all those who are simple, sincere and humble. He is there, perfectly conscious, and He directs all the activities of the world. When I want to know something, I ask Him, and at once He answers me.
This does not mean that I forbid you to come to me and ask something. You can always come to see me on any day. I shall be free to listen to you and give you my advice.
You know, earlier, when He was in His body, people used to say that He was very far, remote and inaccessible to men and that He was not concerned about the affairs of the sadhaks here. It is not quite correct, for indeed He used to spend night after night replying to a heap of letters instead of doing His work of uplifting the world and preparing it for the advent of the Supramental world. He used to take pains to follow their progress and occupy Himself with matters concerning the sadhaks. And yet He had arranged things in such a way that the sadhaks could communicate directly with me and receive my blessings and my help practically on the physical plane as well as inwardly for the sadhana. It was through me that they could realise the heights of consciousness towards the Supramental or surmount any difficulty. At that time, He was preoccupied to gain control, not only to conquer but to subjugate and master the different worlds, the diverse powers and the innumerable states of consciousness that were opposing and standing like an obstacle to our work — the quest towards the Supramental. And the mundane affairs were left to me to resolve and also all this organisation of the Ashram as well as the progress of the individuals and the effort towards the collective yoga. During that period He had hardly any time to occupy Himself with the people or hear their complaints. But now He has universalised Himself, become vast, very intimate and close. There is a bond with everyone, through a nearness and a direct influence so that everyone can have access to Him.
It is formidable. His presence vibrates, concrete, all around the Samadhi. And His influence penetrates and touches the central being and awakens the consciousness to the spiritual life. Even the agnostics, the unbelievers, people of bad-will who come out of curiosity to visit the Samadhi, return amazed by a mysterious alchemy and find an inner peace, because there He showers His peace and His compassion constantly. It is this that bathes them when they pass before Him. It is an unbelievable surcharged activity of His force and His presence.
When I look at the Samadhi and see what is happening there, I am astonished to find this column of dazzling light vibrating with an energy and a transforming force. It rises like this — (Mother makes an upward movement with the hands) with a splendour and a brilliance like an effusion of light from the length and breadth of the Samadhi. It is the New Light materialising….
At night, when everything is quiet, there are some entities who clean up this place of all that the people have left behind — all the formations of falsehood, desires, impatient supplications, all sorts of complaints, bad-will and maladies, as well as the hostile forces — and make this place peaceful and pleasant. They purify the whole surrounding with so much love so that His presence is felt.
It is a sanctified place for meditation and not for gossip. Never to speak — one disturbs the atmosphere. He is there with His glorified body sustaining the entire world in a subtle movement, manifesting gradually His consciousness, partially veiled for the Divine descent.
He is the living assurance of our divine possibility, the promise of the Divinity radiating with the divine Light and divine Power — the progressive march towards the Divine Manifestation. That is why the whole atmosphere is charged with a divine and sublime Peace, you understand? It is He who is there — in the divine body — Himself divinised, the representative of the whole humanity, He who, by His own effort, by His tapasya and by the sadhana that He has done in His body, has made His body glorious. The realisations and the experiences He has had, what He has accumulated in His body by this yogic effort, has charged His body with a transforming power. It is charged — charged dynamically with a force and a light that overflows; it is this that envelops the whole atmosphere. All around, it is His presence. It endures because it is the Supramental force and shows no sign of diminishing. It cannot.
It is this that the people absorb when they pass around the Samadhi. Without knowing it, they are bathed by His love and they do not even realise as to why they are mystified when they approach the Samadhi. It is amazing! They are bewildered when they touch the Samadhi because the force that is working all around demolishes their so-called religious sentiments, shatters the emotions clamouring towards the heavens and puts them before a Reality that they do not understand. They are astounded by this extraordinary phenomenon of the Truth that manifests there. Those who are open are touched, and they return to recharge themselves and to imbibe in their being, this Peace that is in the atmosphere. His presence is so concrete and so living — like a conscious Immensity that dominates and charges this atmosphere. I see how it seems to float in evanescent lights and colours, a beauty of unseizable delight, a spirit of purity and an elusive presence, though unsubstantial yet nearly material, carrying a sweetness unknown to the world. It seems to me that a heart that is one-pointed, aspiring ardently for the Divine, if it stands before the Samadhi and desires nothing but His beatitude, will be transported into a region of delight much better and higher than the ecstasy experienced by the all-powerful heavens or that the earth has ever known.
His devotees and those who aspire — truly aspire to unite their consciousness with Sri Aurobindo who dominates this place with His formidable presence — find the grandeur of His majestic presence, as concrete as you see me now. And those who wish to communicate with Him find His invariable answer. He is there — all-puissant with all His power and He presides over the New Creation from behind the veil with a sustained insistence and an unbelievable patience, but determined, as is His mode of action, gaining victories one after another, first to change the consciousness of humanity and then to transform it in all its dimensions, knowing well that these resistances and these momentary falls prepare humanity to overcome the obstacles before it, and guiding its mode of action and its attitude by a global movement in the peace of His light. And, above all, this is based on spirituality and not on those so called pseudo-religious movements whose essence is fanaticism, war and unnecessary quarrels. You see the results…. The world is tired of the cruelties of men, — blood flows and violence predominates, we have never seen such terrible devastations. Men have become beasts, even worse than beasts!
… So long as man does not try to change his consciousness … it is an unsurmountable impasse. No one, neither man, nor individuals endowed with extraordinary faculties can do anything or bridge the chasm between the Divine and the adverse forces. It is ignorance which has pushed man into this state.
But do not worry. One who has been given the charge, One who is responsible, works to bring man towards the frontiers of a New World; He uproots the difficulties and the obstacles incessantly, guiding man towards a luminous future. He alone can cure this malady, because he is the Master of our existence. Have confidence and all will be all right. This is perhaps the lowest point that man has reached in the spiral of evolution, in the vicissitudes of his terrestrial existence. But soon, we shall see the light — the hope of a great change — the certitude of His presence which alone can bring down and establish the kingdom of the Divine upon earth.
(Silence)
There are some passages in Savitri which explain very well this Apocalypse. I do not remember so well. Perhaps one begins like this: ‘Slowly the light grows greater …’((( Slowly the Light grows greater in the East,
Slowly the world progresses on God’s road. SABCL Vol. 29 p. 510))) Hmm!… Ah!
‘Greater in the east,’ Mother …
Yes, yes, you have caught the right thing. Myself, I do not remember so well. But, there are some extraordinary passages in Savitri.
There you are.
Au revoir.
Au revoir, Douce Mère.
